TALKING SALES 20: “Building Genuine Rapport” – Steve Hall



SteveHallIn this 2 minute interview Steve Hall tells John Smibert how to build genuine rapport with your customer.

He also debunks a number of rapport building methods that salespeople are often taught – methods that can often do more damage than good.

Steve is a thought leader in sales. He’s an author and writer, most notably for BRW, and his focus is on helping people sell more effectively at higher margins.


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Interview Transcript

John: Steve, last time you raised the subject of putting yourself in the shoes of the customer and you mentioned the word “building rapport”. I’d like to explore that a little bit more. How do you go about building rapport and how do you coach your people to build rapport?

Steve: That’s a good question, John. It’s interesting because once upon a time I did NLP and I was taught to breathe in unison and match and mirror and all of these things.

And, you know, people talking about finding a common interest using referrals, and I guess you can do those things. But, to me, we’re mixing up cause and effect. To me, rapport isn’t something that you focus on, it’s something that flows out of you being interested in what the customer or the prospect wants.

I find that if you’re genuinely interested, if you really want to find out about that business, if you’re asking them the details, if you dig and dig, and if you ask intelligent questions then by the very act of being desperate to understand what they need, wanting to know the nitty-gritty and how things work, getting to the heart of the picture, then you automatically end up perhaps matching and mirroring as a by-product.

So, rapport to me is something that comes out of genuinely wanting to know as much about the customer as possible.

John: So this old adage of walking in to their office and seeing that they’ve got a photograph of them being presented with a golf championship or whatever, and then starting a conversation about that is not applicable?

Steve: I think those people are busy, I think they want to get to business, and I think they want people that can add value. So I think you need to be able to ask intelligent questions, I think you need to be able to add value as a by-product of the conversation, and I think you really want to help them and want to know how you can best help them.

John: But in doing so also be personable, relaxed, communicative, and a great listener.

Steve: Oh, I think that goes without saying. I mean, one of the things about being a great listener – write it down I say, when you’re listening to someone; write it down. It makes a big difference to how they perceive you and it makes a big difference to what you remember.

John: So, have a pen and paper and make sure you’re writing down what they say, and they’re going to have much more respect for what you’re doing and the fact that you are listening.

Steve: Absolutely.


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John leads three related organisations, Custell, Strategic Selling Group and Sales Masterminds APAC. These help B2B selling organisations, who recognise the need to transform their sales capability, to respond to the tsunami of change that is starting to wash over us all. He works with people who recognise that to survive they must more strategically support their customer in their buying journey - and understand that they must become specialists in the customer's domain in order to be of value to them. He also helps sales teams build differentiated personal brands and leverage the digital and social worlds to engage to create trust and value.

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